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- From: bbarnett@intergate.bc.ca (brad barnett)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
- Subject: Re: Wonder Computers International Launched
- Date: 12 Apr 1996 15:29:10 GMT
- Organization: Internet Gateway Corporation
- Message-ID: <4325.6676T505T1594@intergate.bc.ca>
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-
- >Someone said:
- >> Without getting involved in the "who owes whom what" debacle, I want to
- >> make a couple of points here:
- >>
- >> Let me preface my remarks by stating that while I have met most of the
- >> Wonder principals over the past few years, I've never been in their
- >> employ and am not now.
- >>
- >> 1) What has been stated by Jason as to the shock and surprise resulting
- >> from the banks sudden decision to bail out is certainly true.
- >> There absolutely was not any collusion to rip off anyone, and
- >> expansion plans were in the process of implementation. There was
- >> no 'hunkering down ' which might typify a calculated move to
- >> protect one's own personal investment.
- >>
- >> 2) Mark, Rob, Steve et al are to a man fine, decent, hard working, and
- >> long suffering Amigaphiles. They all suffered personally as a
- >> result of the 'fallout' in a variety of very real ways.
- >>
- >> 3) Even given the sad history of the last few months, Wonder contributed
- >> to the Amiga community in Canada more than any other single entity
- >> in the 'dark days' of the last several years.
- >>
- >> 4) There's not a shadow of doubt in my mind that if they were able,
- >> appropriate re-imbursement would be made. Sadly, business and
- >> good wishes do not always travel the same road.
- >>
- >> 5) The personal investment made by Wonder shareholders/employees in both
- >> real and 'sweat' equity received the same harsh treatment as that
- >> of any creditor.
- >>
- >> Nobody wanted this to happen....their main mistake seems to have been in
- >> timing the 'big push' a little too early, perhaps only by a matter of
- >> months. This does not, IMHO, make them scum!
- >>
- >> With an even break, Wonder can rebuild (obviously they will face some
- >> obstacles, and guarantees may reasonably be sought). No-one (well, few)
- >> are cursing the Amiga name, though it went through a similar trial by
- >> fire, and has yet to completely emerge.
- >>
- >> I only lost a pittance, so understand that very real harm may have come
- >> to a few. Business is like that, and it's a shame. But these are good
- >> people, and I wish them well.
- >>
- >> Steve Bowie ad636@torfree.net
- >> North York, Ontario, Canada
- >> << new sig imminent...honest!! >>
- >>
- >> Jason Compton
- >> jcompton@shell.portal.com Promotional Director, Wonder Computers Int.
- >> (847) 741-0689 FAX
-
-
- >I'll say it again. No one is saying they did it on purpose. Sometimes a
- >company has no choice but to claim bankruptcy, we have no problem with
- >that. But if they are so nice & hardworking & outgoing, why did Mark not
- >call his dealers (the ones he was really good friends with, like us
- >(BCI)) and tell them what was happening. From my point of view, Mark
- >ordered a large order from us 5 days before a huge Amiga show in Canada.
- >He needed it shipped that day & RED label. We packed it into several
- >huge cartons, shipped it RED and 3 weeks later, he's bankrupt. I really
- >liked dealing with WCi, they purchased alot from us in the past, but
- >after this, I feel taken advantage of. Atleast Mark could have picked up
- >the phone and some how explained. We just got story after story from WCi
- >until word got out on the street that they were going under. Oh well,
- >shit happens.
- >-Craig :>
-
-
- I'm not going to get really far into this, but suffice it to say, the
- show ended up just breaking even, when we had hoped for a decent profit, to
- help with our situation. Shortly thereafter, a clamp was put on all
- operations, including bank appointed trustees, watching every move we did. We
- were trying to file for protection from our creditors, to give us a month or
- two to get into a better situation finacially (the 4000t's had just arrived,
- and we had big hopes of flyer sales helping to pull us out). Things don't
- always happen like you plan. By the time we lost battle, Mark had damn near
- collapsed. He had spent months waiting for 4000ts, and then ended up with his
- dream, something he had dedicated 70 to 80 hours a week to, slip away
- from him. He was devasted, and perhaps that's why he didn't give you a call.
- Not because he didn't want to, but probably because couldn't face you, or
- anyone else, with the mood he was in.
-
-
-
- Brad Barnett - bbarnett@intergate.bc.ca
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